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GTMS: You've said that Abe (and all the Inhabitants) are essentially asexual. Does this serve a story telling purpose or is it a good way to get around an issue that could be construed as too controversial if it were addressed?

LL: The nature of our characters' sexuality has a tremendous amount to do with the storytelling. But this has yet to surface in our games as of yet. The beginnings of this will become revealed in Munch's Oddysee. The purpose is too complicated to describe just yet; in time it will make much more sense. With regard to controversy, I think that where we are going with sexual relations will be far more controversial than conventional sex could ever get. However, the classic boy meets girl story doesn't stand a chance on Oddworld. It just won't happen
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What does he mean by that (highlighted)? Will this theme be addressed? What do you think?
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Probably something to do with mudokons, sligs and glukkons being a super species.
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I don't understand.
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I don't like the sound of this. Some SJW is going to be pissed that they even assigned a sexuality.
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Well, I imagine it was due to the revelation that mudokons, sligs and glukkons have 'Mothers', and how important their roles are in the universe. Maggie pretty much props up the Magog Cartel with her wisdom and money, whereas Sam, Abe's mother, is little more than a breeding machine, suicidally depressed, signed into a contract with the Magog Cartel that simultaneously saved her children and committed them to a lifetime of slavery.

You know though, to have queens, there have to be 'male' mudokons/ gluks/ sligs, so maybe we'd find out about drone mudokons or something??
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They are massively homosexual.

This may explain why OWF is so full of us.
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There's not enough female characters in Oddworld! And black mudokons.
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Pretty sure they have dicks but no balls.
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Giving the Vykkers only male names is so patriarchal. We get Humphrey and Irwin, where's my fucking Ethel and Brenda?
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FUCK I FORGOT ABOUT THAT

We want Irene and Gertrude, as well.
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It was supposed to be a serious thread.
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We want Irene and Gertrude, as well.
And Griselda and Gunthilda and Menstruatia and Uterus.
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You know though, to have queens, there have to be 'male' mudokons/ gluks/ sligs, so maybe we'd find out about drone mudokons or something??
Not particularly. It's possible that some or all of the queens are in some way hermaphrodotic and self inseminating. It'd be setting any "colony" of the species up for a mass plague because of the lack of diversity in their genomes, but still, imagine how fucked up that would be.

Semi related, I strive for some species sexual fuckery like this wonderful bug.

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The only way I can see it being controversial is by requiring mudokon queens to mate frequently in order to produce that much offspring, therefore meaning Sam is probably raped all the time to continue producing offspring for slave labour.

It would be super ineffecient for a superspecies to absolutely require mating to produce offspring, though. Even the most well known super species, ants, don't require a male to begin producing offspring.

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The only way I can see it being controversial is by requiring mudokon queens to mate frequently in order to produce that much offspring, therefore meaning Sam is probably raped all the time to continue producing offspring for slave labour.

It would be super ineffecient for a superspecies to absolutely require mating to produce offspring, though. Even the most well known super species, ants, don't require a male to begin producing offspring.
Mudokon queens? I thought there was only one: Sam. About the rape thing: how can it fit with Oddworld?
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I highly doubt there's only one mudokon queen in the entire history of Oddworld. Just as I'm sure there are other glukkon queens, slig queens, and paramite queens. I can, however, see all the queens being killed off one by one until Sam was one of the very few that remained.

And who knows? Going off the fact that Oddworld is one big ol allegory about big business, corporations, working conditions, labour, and nature vs industrialism, the rape (assuming it goes in that direction at all) could be another allegory for anything really. Something something we're all born and die within the system blah blah people are just numbers to those in charge pbbbt they don't actually care about our well-being

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Most of Oddworld's sentient creatures that we are aware of breed via queens so they probably have drone/consort specimens that breed with the queen and likely fight ferociously for the right to breed. Exploring the traditions and rituals surrounding such social structure may be interesting. The lives of these drones must also differ considerably from the lives of worker specimens. If you mean the sexual act itself than I don't think it adds anything of much importance to the story or the lore so it doesn't have to be addressed.
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What if... now WHAT IF.. There are male and female Mudokons.. The males are either sent or hatched into slavery and the females get terminated? Oddworld has a good reputation with Japan after all...
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Mudokons are androgynous.
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androgyny is having characteristics of both sexes.. Abe doesn't have rockin' tits Maybe Hermaphrodite? Or is Androgyny supposed to be the same thing?
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Mudokons are "gender-neutral" (except the queens): http://www.oddworld.com/2013/10/dear...-karate-chops/
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