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Old 03-01-2017, 01:53 PM
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Default Sexually deviant behavior and Islam.

Until two centuries ago, Islamic countries have had a much higher rate of acceptance of such behavior than modern western countries.

Discuss if you wish.

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I don't think that's a good topic for a debate.
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I do not look for a debate. I just want to see the opinions of people from the West.
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I'm not from the west. I'm in the central Europe.
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Europe is the West.
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How about you provide some more context because I have no idea what this is supposed to be about.
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Please define sexually deviant. I'm rather confused what you're alluding to.
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Everything, that deviates from the statistically normal sexuality and gender expression.
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It's fine, the OP is just really interested in sexual deviance.
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I've re-read all your posts a few times and I mean, maybe it's just too early but I'm not getting it.
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It's because as Islam was introduced to some of these countries (like Iran) their culture and society regressed as the religion grew. You can look at some before and after photos. People from Iran in the 60s looked, dressed and acted as normal people from that time period. Now it's more like normal people from about a thousand years ago.

I think this is the point you're trying to make but you're so vague and abstract that it doesn't matter anyway.
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If you're asking us to discuss the history of sexuality in Islam, and whether acceptance of non-standard relationships was greater in the Islamic world than Christendom, then...yeah. I mean that's just a given historical consensus. While Christian Europe considered women to be property, Islamic women were given substantially more rights. It's only really the advent of Wahhabism that began to restrict sexuality and sexual expression more so than Christianity did/does.

There's not huge room for debate here, there's a unifying historical consensus amongst secular scholars on this issue. Even today, although being homosexual is a punishable crime in many Islamic countries, displays of what we consider to be homo-eroticism are normal although non-sexual, and there is a total rejection of typical western gender norms. Men kiss one another publicly and hold hands in the street, and wash together at the call to prayer. It's hard for westerners to understand sexuality within Islam because their intepretation of sexuality and gender as a binary is wholly different from ours.

Also Nepsotic's point about Iran is unfounded; Iran is completely different in reality from what western propaganda makes out, and the way people display their faith is extremely varied, just the same as anywhere else. A person waiting for a train in the Tehran metro is likely to be stood alongside a heavily made-up woman wearing a headscarf that barely covers he hair on one flank, and a woman in a niqab scrolling through her smart phone on the other.
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>sexually deviant behaviour

tfw i somehow ended up on Stormfront
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tfw i somehow ended up on Stormfront
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