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Old 10-28-2003, 11:59 AM
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I'm newbie! I don't know how old Munch is. Would somebody tell me how old is he? Thanx!!!=)
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Old 10-28-2003, 12:27 PM
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according to Oddworld.com
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Old 10-28-2003, 02:05 PM
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That's queer, I'm sure Oddworld.com used to give his age in months...

Welcome to the Forums, Xakara, but for future reference we'd appreciate it if small questions like this that really only require a single answer could go into the Oddworld Questions and Answers topic. It's stickied, so it'll always be near the top of the message tables, easy to find.

Enjoy your stay!

EDIT: Now that I've read the article I'm absolutely positive they've changed it - it used to mention Munch becoming irratable and paranoid when left alone for long periods.


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Old 10-28-2003, 04:16 PM
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EDIT: Now that I've read the article I'm absolutely positive they've changed it - it used to mention Munch becoming irratable and paranoid when left alone for long periods.
I browsed though my archives and it's exactly the same text that I saved more than one year ago (26/04/2002)

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Old 10-28-2003, 06:35 PM
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Really? Not that I don't believe you, but I swear that what I recall was on there just during the summer holidays when I was writing articles for TOE.

Oh, and in case you're all wondering, Xav accidently clicked 'edit' on my post instead of 'quote'. I've done it before, but fortunately I wasn't a mod at the time.

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Old 10-29-2003, 07:29 PM
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Yeah a few years ago, they had it as like nine months for his age.
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Old 10-30-2003, 10:09 AM
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strange... I will see back in my archives


edit: look what I found (from the previous munch page)
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Old 11-02-2003, 05:52 AM
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don't call him SS, it sounds too Nazi

anyway I wonder how OWI could explain that change

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Well, my mind ain't what it used to be, but my gut says that was part of the whole "something brewing in the belly of Odd" bit. You know, when Munch was still in conception. As in pregnancy, nine months, etc... Then when his age was determined for the game's sake it must have been changed. I will check my sources, though. Xavier, you are the Fox Moulder of the forums! ARRRRRRGGGGG!!!!!!
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Yay! This is the first time I've seen Alf post something in my existence of being on these forums! I'm so happy!

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Hey Xakara I am Paramiteabe PA for short and well I am one of the many great artist here on the forums. Welcome! Oh and its nice to see you again Alf.

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Woo, Alf has returned and supplied not only an answer, but one that doesn't actually require follow-up, unlike the 'Does Abe have a last name' post. It's great to have you back, Alf!

Even if you haven't recognised me... not wanting to brag here, but I'm the who went to the dog years converter at onlineconversion.com to try and figure out if both ages could be true.

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Old 11-07-2003, 03:46 PM
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I want to believe...

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strange... I will see back in my archives


edit: look what I found (from the previous munch page)
Good to see I wasnt crazy, and that Munch was 9 month old originally.
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Old 11-08-2003, 06:01 PM
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2 years when tinking dog years (mumbles 2 times 7 is 4 carry the 1) He is 14 in gabbit years. Thankyou and good night!
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ZRW, not to burst your bubble here, but if you'd been to OnlineConversion, you'd know that there are not 7 dog years to a human year. There are 10.5 dog years to a human year for the first two years of the dog's life, then 4 years for every human year after that.

What's more, using the term 'Gabbit' years in the way you have implies that Gabbit years are the same as human years, yet considering a Gabbit life expectancy is less than a quarter of a human life expectancy (taking Western figures, I fear), this is somewhat unlikely.


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so munch is 21 years? he is "older" then Abe, strange, Abe always act as he was older than Munch towards him

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OK. these converstions are confusing me quite alot. So I'll ask this, how many Gabbit years are there in a human year?

I suck I know.

OMG Alf was totally here

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Yeah, still it's truely amazing. I'm new to these forums and really I'm also quite new to oddworld aswell. God it's such an interesting world. I played Abe's Oddysee when it first came out and I loved it. I didn't play Exoddus until last year and then played MO this year and have fallen inlove with all three. That's how I stumbled across here. A great forum by the way guys. Yeah I'm turning into an Odd fan.

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You're not the only confused one, but since Gabbits live for around 18 years, that means there are approximately four Gabbit years to a human year, meaning that Munch is very roughly 8 Gabbit years old, which makes enough sense, since he is a young Gabbit.

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